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 Post subject: First time treated.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:38 am 
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I've been addicted to oxycontin for three years, regularly 40-80 mg insufflated four to five times daily. Its been up and down, but generally ends in me waking up, doing some, going to lay down till im not in pain, then doing wat i need to do, after diong some more. That process would go all day, and with sufficient income, it wasnt hard to maintain a street dependent habit. My addiction wasnt a big deal to me, as ive been a heavy cocaine and crack user in the past, i figured this was no big deal, i didnt REALLY need it all the time, it just helped my pain. Its that cycle of pain, withdrawl, dose, pain withdrawl, dose, that really captures the user, and makes it "okay" to do.
I think every user really wants their story to be heard, and i think the majority of us want to hear about others stories, so someone around can relate. I'm (for lack of a better phrase) lucky to have a few friends who screwed up with me, or got into it before i met them. Almost all are now seeking treatment, which is great, and its too bad some of us had to cut others out of eachothers lives, because of drug related issues.
After my girlfriend helped me through all my other issues, I've began the long road to recovery, at a methadone clinic a few miles away. (lucky to have one i believe, as it only opened a few short years ago). A lot of the methadone users there discouraged me, told me to tough it out, ask me if i even knwo wat withdrawl is... and how dare they for trying to scare away someone who cant stop using. Im not scared of the withdrawal, I'm scared of not being strong enough to completely quit, and still use occasionally during this time... which i know will turn back on me.

Ive begun suboxone, 8 mg to start, then 2 every 6 hours approx. It has helped me in some ways, but i still get some of the side effects, including headaches (mainly because i squint at work from the sun, and at home from the computer) a good idea is to get a few hours of sleep after work/school. These power naps are ESSENTIAL for withdrawls i find. and if you try and stay awake, itll only make it worse, your body needs rest indeed, and that is SO overlooked.

Im only on my first day, but Im confident this path to recovery is the right one for me. During my sexual experiences which ive read change drastically.... at first with oxycontin, i couldnt perform. or finish. Then i learned to perform... and my girlfriend was NOT unsatisfied in the least. I could continue wihtout any interruptions for hours, and she would get a BLAST out of it. I'm wondering if my dr will perscribe me something like cialis to help cope with this problem. This is a very important part of my quitting, as my significant others sexual needs are also my needs as well. I get high off of her enjoying it so much. :P haha, guess theres always room for a little personal info.

Any help with this info would be greatly appreciated! And glad to be a part of this. I plan to keep posted throughout my treatment.

PS. I ahve a question about smoking cannabis. Will it stop the opiod receptors from binding properly? My surgeon told me it would interfere with my pain management... I still would like to smoke socially, and cigarettes aswell on occasion, mostly at work for cigarettes. I dont smoke when at home or out with friends... kind of a "keep busy" thing at work. Any toughts/opinions


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 Post subject: me too
PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:45 pm 
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wats up red ,u sound like me a little bit,asked my doc about weed ,hes says why dont u just quit everthing,well i dont want to ,started taking suboxone 5 days ago ,he has me on 8mg in am ,and 8mg in pm,and 4mg if anytime i dont feel good ,so im taking about 20mg aday thats gotta be too much i think,but zanax def helps me sleep.,My habit was 10 oxycontins a day 30mg ,,the sub df helps alot no wd, i can think and work normally,ive always been a partier,but pay my bills get ahead have a great job i love,the fucking pills ruined me ,never thought i would get addicted ,love to drink but with limits same with weed a joint will last me 4 days,chronic,,also occasional lines of sky equipment,i can handle all that and always get ahead ,,no jail ,no arrests,no problems but small blue pill killed me.I am new to this site maybe 4 days and im getting no real answers from anyone were talking about oxycodone or herion addiction not other bullshit will suboxone help, us or addict us i notice people join this site but never post anything by the way Diary of a quitter has no real answers sounds like Obama,,,can anyone else out ther give us some true or real answers,not the same old shit maybe u have an adddictive personality or theris some underlying problem with u,,,,,,, REAL people should start posting im lost,,i really am
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Major FT Lauderdale


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 Post subject: Re: me too
PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:21 pm 
major wrote:
wats up red ,u sound like me a little bit,asked my doc about weed ,hes says why dont u just quit everthing,well i dont want to ,started taking suboxone 5 days ago ,he has me on 8mg in am ,and 8mg in pm,and 4mg if anytime i dont feel good ,so im taking about 20mg aday thats gotta be too much i think,but zanax def helps me sleep.,My habit was 10 oxycontins a day 30mg ,,the sub df helps alot no wd, i can think and work normally,ive always been a partier,but pay my bills get ahead have a great job i love,the fucking pills ruined me ,never thought i would get addicted ,love to drink but with limits same with weed a joint will last me 4 days,chronic,,also occasional lines of sky equipment,i can handle all that and always get ahead ,,no jail ,no arrests,no problems but small blue pill killed me.I am new to this site maybe 4 days and im getting no real answers from anyone were talking about oxycodone or herion addiction not other bullshit will suboxone help, us or addict us i notice people join this site but never post anything by the way Diary of a quitter has no real answers sounds like Obama,,,can anyone else out ther give us some true or real answers,not the same old shit maybe u have an adddictive personality or theris some underlying problem with u,,,,,,, REAL people should start posting im lost,,i really am
thanks kids
Major FT Lauderdale



I'm in a hurry so I'll need to make this brief...

People may not be responding to your posts because they can't understand them. I've read your posts and I'm not sure where the questions are that you need answered. Plus, you just burned Diary of a Quitter in your latest attempt at a post, and I'm pretty sure that's not going to help you. She goes WAY out of her way to help people here - very knowledgeable.

Also, I noticed in one of your other posts you mentioned "skiing" and "chronic" and other bullshit. I seems you might be far from ready for all of this. I'm sure there's a "skiing" forum out there somewhere.


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major, I don't know what you're talking about. If you have a question, please feel free to ask me - in a thread or via PM and I'll do my best to answer.

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Major: I gotta agree with OxyPatrick. I read your post and your all over the place. It's hard to understand. I am new to the site but I see just the opposite. Most people here a very will to help and ansewer your questions. When asking question, ask in a comprehendable way (did I spell that right)?? As for Dairy Of A Quitter, I find her very willing to ansewer any questions one might ask. She is very knowledgeble (there i go again). You ll see, the people here are good people and are willing to help, being info you might need or just an ear to listen, or just a place to vent. There's some great info here. Hey we all would love to party smoke some weed drink some beer go sking ya! But most here want to be sober and live free of drugs. For me and I dare to say, some here miss it. I know I do. We dare not, knowing where it leads to. If your an addict there;s no way to use recreactionally. I tryed many times as many others and it always lead back to daily use and trouble. U mention that REAL People needs to start posting. We are all REAL PEOPLE. We are here for a reason. We all share something in common. Real people who has been through Real, similar situations. Question: What does"other bull shit mean" You start with the other bull shit and I promise I will jump in. I bet they have many here that has alot of BULL SHIT to share. How bout plain SHIT?? will that work?? I;m full of it. I would love to off some of this bull shit with you. I love those two words BULL SHIT. Thanks. People here do care and are willing to ansewer any questions and thats no bull shit.


Darren (THAT'S NO BULL SHIT) thats my real name.


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 Post subject: HUH?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:16 am 
Agree with all above - I think 'major' is not firing on all cylinders - posts are really disconnected. A lot of what he's saying doesn't make any sense.
Most people on this forum (ie Diary of a Quitter) are very serious about their recovery. Suboxone is not simply a replacement for opiates so that we can just continue on with every other unhealthy lifestyle practice we've accumulated along the way! For most of us Suboxone has been the key which has allowed us to begin to put our lives back together after we got tired of the dishonest, self-destructive path that opiates took us down. Obviously there are some people out there like 'major' who are not interested in changing their lives. Perhaps they're not done "partying" or whatever; or feel that life sober from all mind or mood altering substances is no fun. We come from such varied backgrounds, yet this forum allows those of us who truly want freedom from the disease of addiction to come together and share, without fear of being looked down upon or bashed for our personal histories, belief systems, methods of recovery, etc. I love this forum - it is full of practical advice and has helped me tremendously in the couple months I've been on Sub.
So if you're main concerns are whether or not it's okay to smoke weed while on Suboxone or whether you can take sexual performance enhancement meds while on Suboxone, maybe this isn't the best forum for you. Please note, I am trying hard to not be offensive - I did NOT say if you have those types of concerns, you're an awful person not worthy to post!!! I said if your MAIN concern is....! Every question and concern has validity and I think everyone here wants to help, but you can't expect a lot in return when you refer to someone else's posts/advice as "no real answers" or "same old shit".
I am "a real person" and I, unlike you, am not "lost". Perhaps if you lay off everything but your Suboxone - you'll find yourself.


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I'm not sure who's being poken to in the last thread, but believe it's me. I smoke weed socially, and i found the answer. No weed does not replace suboxone at the mu receptors or w/e, thus it helps. sexual health and social smoking are important parts of peoples lives, and opiates caused my dependence, not weed. :(


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:02 pm 
Redbyall - Actually most of my comments were directed at "major" not you. Of course, sexual issues rank high in the "needs for healthy and happy living" category for most everyone. Smoking weed, however does not rank all that high on the list for most of us who are pursuing recovery. But I certainly meant no offense to you. Your post was not inflammatory to others and therefore not offensive to me in any way. I am glad you got your question answered.
Best to you!


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