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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:01 pm 
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hello. i am right now in the span of time between my last shot of h. and my first strip of suboxone. my h. life has had me living dead for a long time now and i'm desperate to come back to the smiling, feeling world of a real person.

i'm seeking help/advice because this will be the third time i've tried to start suboxone. the first time i only waited eight hours after my last shot because i didn't want to feel any withdrawl pain when i switched one drug for the other. that mistake was worse than jumping off a roof and landing face first on the concrete below. i couldn't believe how fast the pain hit me.

after enduring that and filling myself with h. again and talking to my doctor, i learned about the insta-self-induced withdrawl. i should have heard that in our first meeting but i didn't because i wasn't listening. the second time i waited 26 hrs. because i was afraid of what happened the first time. it was scary because it wasn't just a memory. it was more like a phobia my body and mind wanted nothing to do with. but, i'm so tired of h. i had to try again.

it's amazing how fast suboxone kicks in. it hit like a huge wall of water splashed onto me. my knees started kicking my legs away from me. my stomach was pinching itself and i started evacuating fluid from everywhere. i couldn't sit, couldn't lay down, and i couldn't keep still. it was withdrawl all over again and so discouraging.

this time i'm going to wait 30 hrs. and take half a strip of 8/2 hoping to ride it out and not go running back to h. what i want to know from people who've done it before is how long will the pain last, or is there something i can do to help with the first day?

sorry for being so wordy, but it did keep me from focusing on The Wait. open to any and all advice or help offered.
thank you. t.


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I would highly recommend inducing in a docor's office under medical supervision. Any doctor who has received the waiver to prescribe Sub knows that this is the proper protocol. You never should have had to go through those two PW's. The doctor is supposed to assess you himself to see that you are high enough on the COWS to induce.
Im sorry for everything you have suffered through, and I wish you luck,
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Hi torcher and welcome. I'm sorry you went through precipitated withdrawals. I've not experienced them myself, but I've heard how bad they can be.

So you're working with a doctor? That pisses me off because you should then be doing your induction in his/her office, not at home on your own flying by the seat of your pants! Anyway, the thing with induction is not to wait X number of hours, but to wait until you're in mild to moderate withdrawals. In other words, it's not the amount of time in withdrawals that's important, but how bad the withdrawals are.

Here is the link to what's called the COWS scale: http://www.naabt.org/documents/COWS_ind ... _sheet.pdf

If you use it, it will help you to determine if you're in enough withdrawal to start your suboxone treatment. It will hopefully help you to prevent what happened before from happening again.

I hope this helps.

I also wanted to say congratulations on making the choice to start suboxone! It's a great step that can literally change your life - for the better of course. I 'm confident you'll be pleased with the treatment.

Now that you've started this thread, feel free to use it like a journal and post as often as you need while you are waiting to take your first dose. We're here for ya.

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