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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:01 am 
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Apparently these new doses will be out later in the year. I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing but I guess will see.

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This is the first I've heard of it. Where did you read that at? Just curious..

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Just google 4 mg and 12 mg suboxone and you will find the story

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I don't like it I think we're going to see a lot more people on 24mgs. Which is way to much for most people, also there are going to be more films hitting the streets with this I think.

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I'm all for more options. Bring it on.

I just hope I'll still be able to get my trusty Suboxone tablet in the coming 2-3 years.


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Remember the survey most of us took that paid the $100? It had a spot for giving suggestions so my guess is that is where they got the idea to make more strengths. I had suggested more on the down scale. Meaning it would be good to have .50mg and .25mg film strips. If I had a .25 one it would be so very easy to cut it down for tapering. Too bad they didn't like my suggestion.

Thanks for the information. And I'm with TJ, the more the merrier.

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Yeah, that was the first thing I thought when I saw this - why 4mgs and 12mgs, but no .5mg or .25mgs - which would be more useful imo.

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The point is to keep people using the product, not to make it easier to stop. If the CEO of McDonalds approved a measure to make it easier for his company to lose customers, share prices would tumble and they'd lose customers, and he'd lose his job.

It's no different for pharma companies. This is the reality of a world where increasingly health care is provided by private enterprise, the customer / patient's health is not always the number one priority, especially when a company knows the customer can't turn to other products. As sub patients we have little or no consumer power to bargain with. We have virtually zero competing alternatives to turn to should we be dissatisfied with RB (possible exception of generic Subutex, which RB has skilfully kept at bay).

I wouldn't hold our breath for any Suboxone taper-packs any time soon.


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Well said teejay! It has nothing to do with helping people it's just for them to make more money. R/b could give a shit about anyone but there profits. Personally Im waiting on probuphine. Im sure that's going to be just as expensive but I'm thrilled by the idea of putting it in one time and not having to worry about my medication for six months.

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I've written to RB repeatedly over the years about the need for a taper pack... I wonder if it is also an FDA issue. They might require evidence that a taper pack actually allows.... A taper. In order to list any indication for a product, there must be data submitted--- a process that generally takes millions of dollars. In other words our government might be 'protecting people' from that product.

My understanding of probuphine is that it lasts a month, not 6-- but I could be wrong. In either case, an injection may be a good 'off-label' option to taper off, depending on the release pattern over time.


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Thanks for the info doc. I have seen when researching probuphine that it is to last 6 months. For my sake I hope that's true. But if what you say is true that's it's only 1 month then I would pass. I would think that a 1 month implant is pretty much useless. In my opinion the point of a implant is so you don't really have to think or worry about it. But if it will have to be replaced once a month then probuphine is going to be a bust. I'm all for the 6 month implant. But as far as one month I'll pass.

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Allegedly per Titan pharmaceuticals...." probuphine delivers continuous around the clock bupernorphine for six months following a single implant". From the press release. I hope it's accurate

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I think if anything a 1mg film would be great to have on the market.

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