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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:29 pm 
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Hello folks, Im completely baffled here by what is going on. The last 3x I went to see my dr I had trace amounts of benzos in my urine.
Now before anyone says did you do benzos, the answer is HELL NO! I never messed with them even when I was using.
My Dr now is starting to doubt me and said the next time it has to be spotless or Im off the program!!
Now I am on some meds, I started Paxil roughly around the same time I started testing positive, I also am on low dose prednisone, started roughly same time as well. Now all 3 times I took the test I had had a few drinks the night before and my urine was very dark when I took the test as well as not having much urine to fill the cup.

Does anyone know what could be causing this?
Im worried he gona kick me out when I didnt even do anything!!

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Unfortunately, I cannot offer you any answers, but I will say a couple of things. The doctor can do further drug testing on the urine you provided - do you know if he did that? It doesn't sound like he did. If I were you (and depending on any cost involved), I would request it. Additional testing can (I think) be more specific and tell if it's a false positive.

Also, have you looked online to see if either of those two meds can possibly cause such a false positive? It might be worth a quick Google search. Just a thought. If I were you, the next time you go in I wouldn't drink before the drug test. I would also drink a lot more water (you should be doing that anyway - urine shouldn't be so dark). I have no idea if that will help or not, but it couldn't hurt.

There are more people better informed than I about drug tests, so maybe you can get better answers from other posters.
Good luck and if I happen to think of anything else I'll let you know.

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hatmaker510 wrote:
Unfortunately, I cannot offer you any answers, but I will say a couple of things. The doctor can do further drug testing on the urine you provided - do you know if he did that? It doesn't sound like he did. If I were you (and depending on any cost involved), I would request it. Additional testing can (I think) be more specific and tell if it's a false positive.

Also, have you looked online to see if either of those two meds can possibly cause such a false positive? It might be worth a quick Google search. Just a thought. If I were you, the next time you go in I wouldn't drink before the drug test. I would also drink a lot more water (you should be doing that anyway - urine shouldn't be so dark). I have no idea if that will help or not, but it couldn't hurt.

There are more people better informed than I about drug tests, so maybe you can get better answers from other posters.
Good luck and if I happen to think of anything else I'll let you know.


I actually have googles it and cant find an answer. However I looked back at the date I started the Paxil and it totally corresponds to when I started showing false positives. The weird thing is I was on it when I 1st started the program back in April of 09. Then I stopped taking it months ago as I felt it was making me too numb. Well I fell into a depression after stopping it as well as when I started tapering down my dose too.

Its the only thing that makes sense to me. Im going to stop taking it to be safe and IM going to bring up the relationship between starting the meds and showing trace amnts of Benzo.
I had started the paxil 2 weeks before I started showing traces.

It would kill me if I got booted through no fault of my own.

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Now all 3 times I took the test I had had a few drinks the night before

don't do this one

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glen bee wrote:
Now all 3 times I took the test I had had a few drinks the night before

don't do this one

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Can you elabortate on this? I have no cravings anymore for opiates, Ive been on subs for 16 months or so. Alcahol wasnt my issue at all, however now being unemployed for 18 months its helped to deal with the depression etc. Ive been through hell and back in th epast 18 months yet have been opiate clean the 99% time (aside from subs)

I just want to know why im showing benzos (trace) when not using them. I wouldnt waste everyons time here If i had been indulging trust me!


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Didn't mean to offend, I just meant when you know you have a urine test the next day, might want to hydrate and have some non dehydrated pee :D


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I also failed urine test twice for benzos which I cheerfully take in small amounts once in a while and will continue to do so especially when tapering subs to zero. To be able to taper off any opioid without the help of benzos to sleep is unrealistic and the reason the doctors who prescribe sub refuse to prescribe benzos is to keep you addicted to sub forever.
I took 5mg valium and half a fioricet (butalbital) to get some sleep on Sunday night and I`ll have to pee in a cup soon, probably on Wed. I hope I`ll be able to pass if I drink a lot of water. Don`t overdo the drinking water thing as I was reprimanded for diluted urine with very little creatinine in it. The doc said I most likely added water to it which I did not but I did drink insane amounts of water before the test. So he gave me a saliva test instead of watching me pee, hopefully it`ll be negative.

As someone who supports cognitive freedom and complete legalisation of most drugs I find the whole piss test thing to be degrading and a waste of taxpayers`s money.


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and the reason the doctors who prescribe sub refuse to prescribe benzos is to keep you addicted to sub forever.


IS that why?!

Some problems with your theory:

1. Sub has patient limits, not very lucrative for those drug pushing caregivers!
2. Benzos have way more dependency risk than bupe, and no patient limit.
3. I never heard anyone bitch about "That scamming doctor gave me way too many oxycodone/methadone/morphine/(insert opiate agonist)". Ever seen a pain specialist? the ones who give you barbaric injections for $1000's? No one bitches about THEM very much.


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Back in `94 I had a 30 Valium/day habit and up to a gram of phenobarb a day which led to DTs. I tapered off the pills and got clean at home without any medical help. I never took any benzos until the last few months when I tried to get off opioids. I take 5-10mg Valium or 1 Fioricet once in a while when I have to go to work and cannot sleep at all. I have no problem stopping or controlling my benzo use. In the last year I had a period of using ativans,xanax,valium etc for a few months in reasonable amounts daily and then stopped without much difficulty. To deny a recovering opioid addict these widely used sleep aids is unethical at best and suspicious at worst. Do you really believe benzos have a bigger abuse potential than suboxone? I don`t see 40 million housewives having a forum about the liquid taper of valium, people use these for a period of weeks or a few months in the prescribed dosages, then taper and stop without any problems except difficulty sleeping for a while.

My previous benzo abuse was because I was chasing a high,smoking 20 joints a day with them. If a person is mature enough to seek help for opioid addiction, gets on suboxone which instantly eliminates the opioid high, he/she is mature enough to use benzos responsibly. Excuse me while I`m off to drink another half gallon of water in hopes of pissing out my half a Valium pill which I took the night before work so I could be of use to my employer and not falling asleep at the job.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:36 am 
Back to Oxyclean - have you taken any sleep aids in the past few weeks? I think both Ambien and Lunesta can show up as benzos. And DO drink plenty of water. Good luck.


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So whatever happened? No follow up on the forum? Aww! I'd second what someone else suggested, getting a real urine analysis from a hospital lab or something, far more accurate than those cheapy opiate/benzo urine strip kits.


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I might have an answer for you. When I first started on sub my drug test (urine) showed benzos and i hadn't touched them in months. It ended up being an herbal sleep aide I was taking had Valerian root in it which causes a positive benzo. Just a thought I know this thread is a few weeks old. Hopefully you figured it out.

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