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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:17 am 
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[font=Arial Black] [/font] BACKGROUND: started using 12/13 yrs old alltypes of drugs and alcohol.Opiates bwere allways my favorite,just never seemed to get my hands on enough to get in trouble.Had plenty of trouble with other stuff though.family history of addiction.
a few yrs ago I had an accident and got hurt BAD( i was drunk when I did it)after two surgeries I come home With two BIG bottles of tabs and somas.I knew then I was in serious trouble. Got hooked went to pain clinic for a year or so,then started getting stuff off the street,by the end of it I was up to OC's shooting D's or whatever i could get my hands on.100 to 300 bucks a day.
went to a detox with help from church and family for 7 days.Detoxed with suboxone.stayed clean about a month.Had another run for a few weeks ending up in emergency room for od.Started out patient therapy and suboxone maintenance.
IMEDDIATELY felt like a new man.After about 4 yrs with minor bumps in the road.family life was good,bought a house,great job,all a man could ask for.
From the age of 18 I at least smoked pot every day,drank most days.While on 12mg of sub per day some meetings ,not alot and a little counciling it all went away.never even considered using anything.My doctor moved away and I was refered to a new doc.First thing she said was "your a good canidate to get off suboxone". She started a taper from 12mg a day to 10 mg day.not too bad but not comfy..next month 8mg day.Im getting scared,running out soon,cravings,doing using type behavior ,but not relapsed yet.
All along even with things going good my wife wants me of suboxone "you need to deal with you addiction,your not really clean,your still using" .All that kind of talk.
The last 4 yrs have been the best in my life. Why do I need to get off suboxone.it works ,I was clean ,takin care of my family,total change from old me.
Why do they want me off sub,they damn sure dont like me when Im using. I think I need a doc with more addiction experiance. my new doc is a gen practitioner with a suboxone permit,not a recovery doc.
When I tell my wife this I am accused of drug seeking behavior,and I suppose I am but it seemed to be working.
Any ideas or thought would be very appreciated. I feel like a time bomb ,just waiting to go off.
Im over 40 now and dont know how many times I can make it back to this side ,the last few rounds of using wetre REALLY BAD. not fun anymore

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:39 am 
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Hi tbell...glad you came here. Lots of good people.

You are square on that you probably need to find another doctor. It took me 3 tries to find a good addiction doctor. My first one was an ex-medical examiner that was in it for the money. My 2nd doc was a GP that knew little to nothing about addiction and kept upping my dosage until I was on 24 mgs/day. Finally, my 3rd doc is a real addiction specialist/psychiatrist with a lot of knowledge about how this addiction-thing works.

My husband did not really understand either until the 3rd doctor took the time to explain to him how and why Suboxone was working in my brain. It was like he had a "light bulb moment" and finally understood. Sounds like your wife could benefit from that.

A year ago, I would've told you I'd be on Subs the rest of my life. Around Dec of last year, I started having the inclination to get off. Some people never do...but my "good" doctor told me that it was very personal and that he felt people should stay on it the rest of their lives if that's what it takes. He also told me that I would "know" if I ever wanted off...and he was right on about that. It's like I just knew it was time.
You ARE NOT there or you would not be having the feelings/cravings your having...and that's ok. No one should be judged for taking Sub and no one should be judged for tapering off Subs....we are all different and we do what is comfortable to us.

If possible, try to find an addiction specialist....someone who does not just write scripts every month but takes the time to educate you and really treat your addiction. If you feel you need Subs to function at your full potential, then you still need them. One thing I've learned about Suboxone...you don't work it...you let it work for you.

Best of luck and keep us updated on how it goes.


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Hi tinybell, welcome to the forum.

After reading your story, I think there is no way in hell you should be getting off of Suboxone. You need to tell your doctor pronto that you feel like you're close to a relapse and if he doesn't up your dose, find a new doctor!

I don't mean to be insulting to your wife, not in any way, shape or form, but she hasn't a clue when it comes to addiction. My wife is the same way, actually I'm glad for it, otherwise she would probably be an addict like myself. Anyway, if I were you, I would try to educate her regarding addiction. I know my wife went with me to my first counseling appointment with my addiction counselor and he was able to help her understand addiction better that I could.

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WOW I agree with what everyone said here...... stopping subs needs to be your choice, only you know when you are ready.

I really feel for you!!!


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Hi Tinybell, welcome to this forum. It is a great place!

I agree with the other posters. It sounds like suboxone is working for you and that you may relapse without it. I would look for a new doctor! In the mean time, make sure you are getting all you can out of your sub dose. There is a thread on here about how to get the maximum absorption out of your dose.

It sounds like your doctor and your wife need some education about how sub really works. Dr Junig, the doctor who started this forum, has some good videos on you tube....one of them is called "How long are you going to take that stuff?" It is for family members who question sub use. It would be a good video for your wife to watch. I don't know how to post a link to it here but if I figure it out I will.

I have been taking the sub for about a year and I too believe it is working great for me. My husband was unsure at first about me taking it. Now he believes sub has really turned my life around. I plan to be on sub for as long as I need to.

Keep us updated on how you are doing!


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:58 am 
dam 12 mg a day for years, thats fucking hardcore.


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I agree that if when you dropped your dosage and started having bad cravings and feeling less stable then it's not your time to go off suboxone. Just because some people want to be off suboxone doesn't mean it's right for other people. If 12 mg works for you and you're doing well on it, then GOOD ON YOU. It's not an unreasonable dose, not in the least. One's dose is heavily dependent on what one needs to suppress the cravings. I don't find that to be "hard core". (What works for one person does not necessarily work for someone else.)

There are 4 online sub doc locators that I'm aware of. At the top of each of the forum pages is a physician locator (suboxone-directory.com). The others are suboxone.com, samhsa.gov, and naabt.org. Not all the same doctors are listed on each site. So you might need to check out each site to find the right doctor.

I would make finding a new doctor a priority. I also agree that educating your wife is paramount. Try to point out to her the difference in your behaviors between when you were using and now that you're on sub. The lying, cheating, maybe stealing you did to get your drugs before, and now how you are able to live an honest healthy life. That alone should tell her that you're not still "using". Personally, I just look at suboxone as just another medication I need to take, no different from my beta-blocker or my cholesterol-lowering medication or even my antidepressant. I take it and forget about it. I guess I'm lucky because I've been on it for almost 2.5 years and my family understands and supports me completely. From the get go they loved the almost immediate change in me and wouldn't trade it for anything. They don't want to risk me going back to who I was when I was in active addiction. Like I said, try to get her to see what you were like then and what you are like now. Remind her of how bad it was then.

Good luck and please keep us posted.

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