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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2016 7:42 pm 
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Hi , I've been a heavy user of Oxycodone since the age of 15(20 now). I'm nervous as all heck about what it will be like :( . Any out there care to share their stories? What does it feel like?


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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2016 10:04 pm 
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Hi! I also replied to your other post. I'm so happy for you, a new life coming very soon. My experience with this med is I was a heavy methadone user and absolutely loved using and would still be to this day if it weren't for my doctor. I moved from Detroit to a northern michigan town with no methadone clinic and found a sub doctor that prescribed methadone (illegal for addiction) until I weaned down far enough to switch. The problem was, I had no more intention of weaning than I did pulling my own eyelids off, so he got frustrated with me and said it's subs or nothing and I didn't want nothing. My back was against the wall. By this time I had no money no job no hook up on the street and ya know what? That was one of the best days of my life. Well, once the pw wore off that is. I am so grateful to him every day of my life, and so is my family. It's so nice to not wake up sick and lose jobs because I'm either high or sick. This medication saved my life, I even emailed the makers of sub and thanked them.

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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2016 11:54 am 
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I became addicted to painkillers as well-for 5 years like you. I switched to Subs and my whole world changed. For the better. The only PROBLEM is, I KNOW it's screwed with my brain chemistry. I have a hard time retaining what I read, feeling REAL emotions, and connecting genuinely with others. I was 28 when I started Subs and it's been 8+ years. I can't wait to be off of them.

I would tell you this: You are still young and your brain is still growing. If you have to go the Sub route, do it. It WILL "start" you down a better path. DON'T do what I did though.
I became reliant on them, didn't seek recovery/counseling while on them, and went about my life like a robot. Now, I'm struggling to get off the Subs too, because I want my brain and Life back.

Take the Subs, try NA, find an addictions specialist, slowly put yourlife back together...but PLEASE don't stay on them too long.

Best of luck and I hope you keep us posted.

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Hey JB,

The scientific research and the opinion of the doctor who created this forum disagree with Beangirl. She has the perspective of one person; the doctor and the research have experience with hundreds. I am not discounting beangirl's experience. I just want you to know that research is showing that the longer you are on sub the less likely you may be to relapse after getting off. Current research shows that the relapse rate of people that were on buprenorphine for a year relapsed at a rate of 95%, just like those who never took it. Out of the doctor's hundreds of sub patients over the years, he has found that the ones who taper off successfully without relapsing are on sub for at least 3 to 5 years and use that time to completely change their lives for the better.

Also, there are no studies so far that show that buprenorphine changes your brain chemistry except the way it is supposed to. It covers your opiate receptors so that you're not withdrawing and not craving.

Good luck on your induction!

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Good luck JB!

My experience has been extremely positive so don't let anything scare u. My experience with suboxone actually put my mind and brain bk in normal working order, definitely didn't change my emotions or anything like that. U know what it did for me....it took me out of total despair from active addiction and put me bk into life that I look forward to again.

I did my induction and immediately felt better. I remember the happiness I felt waking up morning after morning being so relieved that the chase was over and that the sickness was over. I haven't touched anything but my sub since, that was 4 yrs ago. I see my dr, an addiction counselor and attend sub based meetings too. I think you'll be very happy u did this. I'm wishing u tons of success.

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2016 9:34 am 
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I think that when people focus inward on how they felt over the past 8 years, they likely feel as if things changed. The type of change relates more to how a person's life is going. A single parent of 2 or 3 young kids is not going to feel 'a lack of emotions', and is more likely to complain of poor attention span. An older, empty-nester is going to complain of a lack of ambition. A person in a loveless partnership will complain of a lack of emotions (I'm not insinuating anything about the person who wrote about emotions-- just saying what I generally see as a psychiatrist).

I see people on buprenorphine and off buprenorphine. I don't see any difference in what they complain about as far as emotions. I have plenty of non-addicted, non-buprenorphine patients who came in because of feeling depressed or emotionless.

For Beangirl, I would suggest seeing if you are suffering from depression-- because people on buprenorphine products have all the same mental health risks as anyone else.

For JB--- let us know how things go!


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Hello All! It always fascinates me when people link negative symptoms to suboxone and suboxone only! I can only speak for myself when I say...for five to six years I was putting any kind of pill into my body that I thought would make me feel good. I would take 10 times the amount that was prescribed...probably more than they had given the mice when they were testing the drug! I find suboxone, start taking it as prescribed and now say that any little twitch I feel is all suboxones fault! No, it is my fault and the fault of the abuse I was doing to my body. I also have started menopause and yet suboxone has caused sweats, low sex drive, and depression! NO! I need to be rational in my thinking! First, my body and brain need time to get out from under the damage I DID by abusing it in the first place. That does not happen overnight...if I am LUCKY...there is no lasting damage! Second, I need to take the time to figure out why I turned to abusing medication in the first place! What was I trying to escape or get away from or just not facing? OK, I am done with my rant! Please remember, we are all different! I can only speak for myself and how my life is! I do hope though, that if my story helps one person believe that suboxone is worth a try than GOOD! I wish them all the luck in the world and will be here to support them in any way I can!


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Michelle F. wrote:
Hello All! It always fascinates me when people link negative symptoms to suboxone and suboxone only! I can only speak for myself when I say...for five to six years I was putting any kind of pill into my body that I thought would make me feel good. I would take 10 times the amount that was prescribed...probably more than they had given the mice when they were testing the drug! I find suboxone, start taking it as prescribed and now say that any little twitch I feel is all suboxones fault! No, it is my fault and the fault of the abuse I was doing to my body. I also have started menopause and yet suboxone has caused sweats, low sex drive, and depression! NO! I need to be rational in my thinking! First, my body and brain need time to get out from under the damage I DID by abusing it in the first place. That does not happen overnight...if I am LUCKY...there is no lasting damage! Second, I need to take the time to figure out why I turned to abusing medication in the first place! What was I trying to escape or get away from or just not facing? OK, I am done with my rant! Please remember, we are all different! I can only speak for myself and how my life is! I do hope though, that if my story helps one person believe that suboxone is worth a try than GOOD! I wish them all the luck in the world and will be here to support them in any way I can!


Michelle, I love this! Such great points!! I do think that people are more likely in our present society to want to blame their problems on other people or other things. More people need to take responsibility for their actions! I am saying this while I also recognize that addiction eventually takes away your power to choose certain options. What I am really amazed at, however, is that people are letting addiction off the hook with great frequency! It's suboxone's fault! Not the fault that I am in the grips of a powerful opiate addiction! That makes no sense to me. Rock on, Michelle!

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I'm giving u ladies a cyber fist bump right now....... :)

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Thank you Ladies! You know me...my posts are usually filled with warmth and fuzziness as that is just me! But, I can not, for a minute, let anyone believe that suboxone is the problem or the cause of problems until they have ruled EVERYTHING else out! And, that, with us addicts, is usually a lot! We were not respecting and/or caring for our minds and bodies in any way that would even be considered healthy or normal while in active addiction! Sorry, I have started again! lol Educating people on the benefit of suboxone has become a passion of mine! And by that I don't think it is for everyone but I do think it should be considered! Certainly, never automatically ruled out based on someone elses experiences! Have a great evening everyone!


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