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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:05 pm 
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From day 1 until this morning it's been tough to even climb stairs. no energy no motivation no strength.for the most part I have been completely positive. I haven't gone to work I took time off to do this. I started in the middle of a work week, so that I would have an entire following week also. The last three or four nights hace been almost completely sleepless nights, tossing and turning, restless legs, aching in my bones and joints especially, and headaches, but only at night. I'm on day 7 right now and today, mid morning, all of a sudden, I felt really good... It lasted several hours, had energy back,strength and vitality. I was able to run up and down the stairs two steps at a time for about 12 laps. The past 7 days I could barely walk on them... I am feeling a little bit lethargic and tired again but I have 4 more days before I have to be back at work. As it says in the subject line no bullshit one and a half to two a day mostly, for the past 5 years.. people I know friends have said that it's unheard of to do, most of my friends say if anyone can do it I can. the support is important, I have been in bed mostly or laying down for 6 days. if you have someone that's willing to take care of you and loves you and willing to pretty much wait on you it makes it a lot easier. because you're not going to want to get up to get your own food or drinks even.that's all I have to say for now I will be back tomorrow. oh I have been taking vitamins,ibuprofen and DLPA for the past 3 days. I'll be back tomorrow


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Repeat to yourself over and over-- this is TEMPORARY, this is TEMPORARY. People seem to forget that at some point, and feel demoralized. I can promise you that if you stay on track, you will feel much better a month from now. You will have, though, a day now and then that feels like a horrible setback; after those days you will start to recognize some real progress. I've heard that from many many people... that just as they start to feel better, they have one or two very bad days-- maybe around the 15 day mark-- but then they start noticing progress.

It WILL get better. This is TEMPORARY-- Good luck!


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I know exactly how and what you feel as I just made it through the same thing. It IS temporary...it will pass. You just have to hang in through the process, for me days 10-12 were the turning point but I jumped at 2+mg. Soon you will forget about what you are going through today, Im serious. The insomnia will pass, that was really hard for me as well. Good luck to you! Youre half way through.

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Yes, what the doc said! This is temporary, as you're starting to find out. Don't give up if you feel like you're back at day 2 again. This whole process is two steps forward, one step back. You may zig zag a bit but your trajectory is constantly moving forward when you look at the big picture. Have you been using hot baths at night? Works wonders to get some sleep, even if only 30 minutes at time. Unfortunately not everyone has a bath and showers just don't quite cut it.

It is possible, so don't listen to those folks. I was on suboxone for 6 solid years, most of that time was at 16mg. I was on methadone for 2 years before that, and heroin and pills for years before that. I have been off suboxone for almost two and a half years now. Just continue to be vigilant in your recovery and never let your guard down. Easier said than done, trust.


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today is much better than yesterday, I woke up a little weak and achey, for the most part I had energy all day and up until tonight there was only a short period Of time in the late afternoon when my energy diminished again. Took some cialis and had enough energy to have sex for the first time in 8 days... Twice... Took a walk, had my appetite back,actually ate three times today instead of just once or not at all... for some reason I feel like this is my turning point... 3 more days until I have to be back at work. I have no urge to take any,the support from friends, family, loved ones is everything. I appreciate your taking the time and your responses I really do. I know this is temporary and any setbacks are temporary... I'll let you know how I feel tomorrow happy Thanksgiving everyone


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It's great to hear that you're feeling better! I hope that today is better as well!

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I missed yesterday, sorry, I was tired and lethargic spirits were still pretty much high for 90% of the day needed some uplifting for about an hour from some friends and family.. slept pretty well the night before, but last night not so much, headache all night, aches and pains were gone, but the headache, it just wouldn't go away, GF made me drink ton of water, for the short period, I did sleep, maybe I was dehydrated. woke up had a cup of coffee and excited to feel a little bit better noticed I haven't been drinking nearly as much coffee as I have could have been a caffeine headache, not sure yet. been trying to cut down on stimulants before I go to sleep.. I feel like I'm taking a couple of steps back, went to the bathroom too many times last night, 4 to be exact, this is the first time this has happened... I'll be back on later.. ty everyone...


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It's not unusual at all to feel like you've taken a step back during withdrawal. Unfortunately, withdrawal is not a linear experience! Your setback is just part of the process and I hope it's over soon. From what you said in your first post you jumped at 12 to 16mg, unless you were on 2mg strips. If so, you're in for a longer detox process than a lot of people.

You don't mention whether you were getting sub from a doctor or on the streets. If you do have access to a physician, you could ask for some meds that will help you through this time. There is a high blood pressure medication called Clonidine that is used off-label for opiate withdrawal. Immodium can be very effective as well. Time and again I've heard from people detoxing that exercise helps enormously! Even though you don't feel like doing it, try to get some exercise in.

One of the things that people report who have jumped from a high dose is that it is a deterrent against ever wanting to use opiates again. However, even they have slipped up and abused again. Maybe not even a full relapse, but they've slipped. Since addiction is a chronic, relapsing, brain disorder, you can't assume that you will never use again. After you're feeling more back to normal you will need a recovery plan to work at. You might want to try SMART recovery if you don't like the idea of 12 step meetings. It's not too early to start thinking about it.

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Amy, of course, hit the nail on the head regarding slips. I jumped at a high dose (8mgs roughly) and that was a bad idea. My acute withdrawals didn't last too long, about 2 weeks but my body took a long time to adjust. I had low energy, tiredness, bathroom issues, low motivation going up to 3 months. After I started exercising though that went away. Regardless of how long and crappy my detox was, as soon as I started feeling good, I slipped. Not long enough to have to withdrawal again but I was mind screwed. I then made it about another month and slipped again, this time I had to endure about 2 days of depression and tiredness and told myself never again will I experience this. 2.5 months later, you guessed it... Slipped again, this time longer and had to feel it again for about 4 days. It wasn't until 7 months later that I decided to start doing meetings, something I believed to be dumb before, but it helps. Also, being honest on here helps too, just being accountable and wondering if anyone is disappointed. And at least for the last 4 days, my cravings have been gone, or managed. Good luck man, I'd love to hear how Sunday is going for you. Keep posting.


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I jumped from 2mg after 4 years on sub, and three previous to o*y and opana, also xanax. I'm around 8 months and feel good. I had a turning point at three weeks and never looked back. You'll notice that the rls lingers for 6 months or so. Also, the serotonin and dopamine level out around 6 months. Depression for me was the most difficult. Once the pink cloud lifts your kindof stuck with the burnt out feeling. Nothing phases me since pills. The few I know whove managed to stay sober are successful. Don't fall back into that addictive mindset. Face your fears. That's the only advice I have. Face your fears

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