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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 4:35 pm 
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I've been trying to compile three lists:

1.) A list of countries that allow travelers to bring in bupe (along with documentation requirements).
2.) A list of countries that allow travelers to bring in Suboxone as a specific name brand (along with documentation requirements).
3.) A list of countries that specifically disallow bupe and/or Suboxone.

There is a difference. I was detained several years ago in China with a name brand drug made up of a legal drug in China. The name brand wasn't on China's allow list and the medication was seized. Fortunately it was just Diamox (and altitude sickness medication sold in China as something else) but it was an important lesson. Even though I'm part of Global Entry in the US, my hairs still stand on end with dealing with ICE in any form. Dealing with a bunch of angry, armed, non-English speaking (at first) Chinese border guards wasn't fun. I was detained for almost 24hours.

So I'm up to about 32 countries with definitive policy right now. I'm finding very little reliable information. There are tons of threads on this (Mexico recently) and other forums but very few are documented. I got a response back from the maker of Suboxone today that basically said:

"Our products are marketed throughout the world under different brand names. Help is here for you! Just visit the RB website for your country for more information"

A few emails back and forth and they still didn't understand that I didn't want Suboxone, I wanted to carry my Suboxone with me. I don't care what Suboxone is called in Ukraine. I just want to know if I can fly there with it.

So while I'm formatting what I've got so far if anyone can direct me to any resources I would appreciate it. Some countries I'm struggling with:

Thailand
Singapore
Congo
Turkey
Israel
Saudi Arabia (found 3 conflicting policies referenced for them - go figure. I might just assume this one is a "no").
UAE
China
South Africa (conflicts, awaiting clarification).
Russia
Sudan
Pakistan
Singapore
Vietnam
Egypt
Ethiopia
Non-Schengen EU Members (this gets super confusing. The laws are technically super restrictive and not at all consistent. I have a family member that works at State actually helping me with this one because it will ultimately be my biggest concern).
Peru
Brazil
Argentina
India
Kuwait
Bahrain

If anyone has any requests, please let me know.

As an aside - if anyone wants an example of the horrible advice being given on the net, check: http://www.drugs.com/forum/featured-dru ... 54465.html.

You've got one guy saying "hey! I've been on plane before! That means you can clear customs in any country! Go for it!!!! After all, we're only talking jail (or execution in scarier places) here!!!!". Then we have the resident "god" of that forum chiming in with completely incorrect advice. I mean really people. Doctors in California can prescribe marijuana and you even get paperwork to go with it. Do I have any volunteers to fly to Saudi Arabia with that? Just make sure to pack it next to your bottle of vodka from the duty free (that's legal in the states too!) and your graphic gay porn magazines. If you sweat profusely and shake while passing through customs it helps you look less suspicious.

Sorry, I get really annoyed when you see people dispensing potentially life-ruining advice on the internet when they obviously have no clue what they are talking about.


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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 10:33 pm 
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I found the following resource:

http://www.indro-online.de/travel.htm

Please, share what you found. My son, who is on suboxone , is very interetsted in international travel.


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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 10:40 am 
I would also try www.naabt.org (national alliance of advocates for buprenorphine treatment). They may not have the info. on the website, but I bet they could direct you to it.
Your posts are quite interesting. Mind if I come with you?
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Last Summer I went on a mission trip for 7 days. I took 2 weeks worth of Suboxone with me as well as bottles on Strattera and Zoloft. I kept the Sub in the box and had a note from Doctor just in case.

Anyway, I had no problems as no one stopped me, searched me or even cared.


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Singapore is a huge no-way. And what makes it all the more dangerous is the fact it's a transit hub for SE Asia. I have heard of a person who wasn't even travelling into Singapore, but only stopping over in transit, who ended up locked up for days and having their Sub taken. In the eyes of Singapore, Sub is no different to heroin.

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Penalties

Possession or consumption of Buprenorphine:

Up to 10 years of imprisonment or S$20,000 fine or BOTH

Illegal traffic of Buprenorphine:

Up to 20 years of imprisonment and 15 strokes of the cane

Illegal import or export of Buprenorphine:

Up to 30 years of imprisonment or imprisonment for life and 15 strokes of the cane for the unauthorised manufacture of Buprenorphine


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Just a note from the Dr may not carry much weight, when crossing borders, and frankly it's a bit of risk to leave home with out a signed/stamped document from the relevant embassy giving you the OK, to enter their country with sub.
The risk of being a marked POI, just by making enquiries about sub is probably gonna make entry into many countries difficult, due to information share agreements.
It always get's back to the buck. Average drug addicts don't usually have the resources to cover the paper work or connections to carry sub where ever we like.
Sure you can breeze thru customs, no worries,,,but fuck, what happens if the officer does'nt like your face or thinks your spending money belongs in their pocket? Travel with sub your a target, esp' in Asia & East Europe.


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I have traveled from Australia to Thailand several times with a months worth off suboxone each time. I've never had a problem but you are MAD if you don't do the following.

Travel with a letter from your prescribing dr. It should state your daily dose and that you are traveling to that particular country. Not just a generic letter.

Contact the Thai narcotic control bereau (or some name like that). Fax them your passport, itinerary, copy of ticket and letter from dr. Ask them for permission, don't state you're " arriving such & such a date". They are an authority figure and expect to be treated as such. Think Thai!

I've always done this and never had a problem. But, I've been there several times and have family that live there. I know their drills.


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chickenkebabs wrote:
I have traveled from Australia to Thailand several times with a months worth off suboxone each time. I've never had a problem but you are MAD if you don't do the following.

Travel with a letter from your prescribing dr. It should state your daily dose and that you are traveling to that particular country. Not just a generic letter.

Contact the Thai narcotic control bereau (or some name like that). Fax them your passport, itinerary, copy of ticket and letter from dr. Ask them for permission, don't state you're " arriving such & such a date". They are an authority figure and expect to be treated as such. Think Thai!

I've always done this and never had a problem. But, I've been there several times and have family that live there. I know their drills.


Wow ... I WISH I knew this. My doctor advised me to stay well away from Thailand.

Recently I was involved with friends organising a diving trip to Phillipines. Then when the plans changed to Thailand, and I asked my doctor and he gave me that advice, I had to pull out of the diving trip.

It makes it all the worse now that they've come back and have so many stories about how awesome their diving trip was. They got their advanced, deep water and nitrox diving licenses in that trip and now I'm so far behind it'd be hard for me to be involved in their next trip to become certified divemasters.

I'm a bit down thinking about it. Good on them for having such an awesome time but bummer that I didn't think I could go. (to be honest I'm not sure exactly how Suboxone would interact at 40m underwater with narcosis anyway).


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This thread is kind of freaking me out, but good information to have. I recently have expressed a desire to start traveling to my family. I've been looking into it, and I am trying to decide where to take my first trip. TJ, you sound like you may have some good advice on where to begin. The year I spent in Japan, was pretty awesome, and I've been to Australia, and Korea. That's it. I think that the info in this thread is going to come in handy! Thanks guys!

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