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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:30 am 
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Hello everybody, im new here and was so glad to come across a website with so much good information. I have a question about going to a new doctor. I have been seeing my doctor for about a year now, well I see an associate of his that doesnt seem to know much about this medication or addiction, and I dont feel that Im getting what I need. I also see a counselor every month and go to meetings. I have been able to see my actual doctor about 2 times since I started treatment after getting out of the hospital, or treatment facility. My question is, is it possible to start completely over with a new doctor, as far as going in to see them while in withdrawal and finding the right dose, then just continue with the new doctor. Im asking because I dont feel that I am on the right dose and I have not felt right since the beginning, and my doctor is not doing anything about it, and I am sick of being told that I cant see my actual doctor because he is booked up for the next 4 months. I dont have that long, I will be moving out of the country in jan. of 2011 and I need to get this right before I leave because I wont be able to try this once i move. I have tried taking it all in the morning, through out the day, taking less and more. I just dont know how to go about this, or if I should even try doing this. And I am taking 16mg a day if that helps. Im also posting another question in international issues about whether I can get a years prescription before I go so I can use my insurance to purchase it. Thanks to everyone that answers. Your all so helpful and knowledgeable. Thanks again


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Hello cam and welcome to the forum. I hope you find as much support here as I have.
Obviously yes, you can get a new doctor, but you don't really need to be re-induced. A new doctor can start from where you're at, go over what some of your symptoms are, and tweak your dosage from there.

What leads you to believe your dosage isn't right for you? I mean, what symptoms are you having? How long are you giving yourself to adjust when you change your dosage? If you can give us some more information about the problems you're having, maybe we can help you out. Please know that aside from Dr. J though, we are not doctors. Any advice we give you on dosage should be taken with that in mind.

I don't blame you for being upset that you can't get in to see your doctor. That definitely sucks! If you're leaving in January, you really should start seeking another doctor asap.

I be looking for your next post...

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I dont think im on the right dose because im still feeling pretty bad. achy legs, cramping, sweats. since starting treatment I have slipped up a couple times and gone back out and used. the first time was about 2 months in. I still had cravings and I went off the subs and used for about 2 weeks. it happened again about a month later, and again after that about 1 and a half months later. I have not told anyone about that bc i am very ashamed. and after the last time i used then started the suboxone again I havent felt relief from cravings and the other symptoms. I waited 2 days after using to start the suboxone again. When I tried different dosages I would give it about a week or so. Ive gone down to 4mg and up to 20. I hope this helps explain a little better. Im not sure if I should have done something differently after going back on the sub after using. I know I should have told my doctor, but the associate i see doesnt seem to believe in this treatment and medication, and I think he would kick me out if I told him. Thanks again everyone.


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Well, you definitely aren't having withdrawals if you've been up to 20 mg. That said, maybe after being on as much as 20 mg and dropping down as low as 4, maybe THAT caused you some discomfort. It's really hard to say. If I were you, I'd pick a dose, something like 8 mg once a day, and stick with that and only that and see how it goes. It's possible that all the back and forth on sub dosages plus the relapses just have your system all messed up.

As for your shame, please try not to be so hard on yourself. They say relapse is part of the disease, right? It's great that you see a counselor and go to meetings. That will help you, but with therapy it doesn't happen overnight. Try to be patient and give yourself time to stabilize (again).

I'm sorry I can't be of more help. Please let us know how you're doing.

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