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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:43 pm 
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http://fox59.com/2014/07/25/patients-of ... nd-repeat/

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:47 pm 
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I know how that goes, my original sub doc is in process of losing his license and under dea investigation in southern Oregon.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:29 am 
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read the whole article and I don't see what the Dr. did wrong. Makes me scared for the future of office based sub treatment because that article described what the majority of sub programs are like. I dont know what the DEA wants (well thats not true I know they would love to be able to take our subs if they could so we have no options but cold turkey misery) aside from the very beginning of treatment you don't need to sit there with your dr for an hour long counseling appt every time. When your stabilized like Dr junig said you don't have that desperation feeling like when you come off opiates without maintenance meds, you don't sit there and dwell on getting high every minute (I rarely if ever think of using opiates today and I know sub is the reason) so you don't need to sit down and do some in depth one on one counseling. If I had insurance that paid for it hell Id go to a counselor just to see if it helps me but seeing as I can barely afford to pay for my treatment as is I would have to quit probably if I was forced into another pricey monthly appt.


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My dr a few months back told me the DEA wants everyone off of sub or for a barelys. I would like to point out just in case, that in no way was this meant as a anti anything. Truth be told I know the dr they are calling the ring leader. I knew him back in 2007.

Things change people change. Money stays the same. It's only perception. With the cap put on dr's. The DEA has to have people that calculate risk. If not they should.

The whole thing in a nutshell is "THOSE THAT HAVE CONTROL OR HAVE THEIR HAND IN THIS NATIONWIDE HAVE NO IDEA WTF THEY ARE DOING. From Pharmacists all the way up the chain. They have no clue What is about, how it works, what it's for, who it's for etc. We all know the ones that do. The whole spectrum that does know what it's about, deep down they know who they are.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:51 pm 
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God Snake, your last paragraph said it all...and its a damn shame..




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