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 Post subject: bridging the gap
PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:58 am 
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so i've tapered myself down to one bag per shot from 4/5, have a few subs & want to switch to those ASAP. the only problem is the 24 hour period i have to wait which i am terrified of. i acquired a bunch of kratom powder & am wondering if i use this over the interim period to control withdrawals/cravings will i experience precipitated withdrawal when i finally take the sub or will i be ok? anyone tried this before? i have to be able to work so undergoing total withdrawal torture is really not an option, can't afford to get fired. any advice is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.
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 Post subject: Re: bridging the gap
PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:40 am 
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Kratom is a relatively weak mu agonist.. so it is possible that it may blunt withdrawal a small amount. But the safest way would be to just take a long day (30 hours) without anything, and then Suboxone.

As a doc I have to add, though.... that most (i.e. well above 90%) short-term plans to deal with opioid dependence result in short-term breaks from active using. The instructions for using buprenorphine/Suboxone to aid detox was removed from the Suboxone web site a few years ago-- after several studies showed that episodes of detox were almost always followed by relapse.

Back to your question... even if you use Kratom, you will need to go 24 hours without using--- or the mu effects of the Kratom will result in precipitated withdrawal. I don't see how the Kratom adds much to your plan.


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 Post subject: Re: bridging the gap
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ok thanks for the advice. i figured it wasn't going to be that easy but was hoping there was something i could do to help the process...


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