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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:18 pm 
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I took the last of my morphine and Norco last night at 5:59 pm and then gave the rest of my stash to a buddy of mine. Can't drop anything until I get to the Doc's office at 7:45 am tomorrow. I have to be in a state of withdrawal so the Doc can gauge my future doses of Sub. Never tried the stuff but am looking forward to it. I see more good than bad reviews of it.

I've been on OC, Morphine and Norcos for the past 6 years. Breakfast, lunch and dinner. I finally went to seek help when it began to affect my sex live and pocket-book. I've tried cold turkey but I can't do it. I go to school full-time (4th year) and work full-time at a management level and I just can't afford to go through withdrawals like the ones I've encountered trying to quit.

I will be using this site and the Sub itself as treatment so please share any insight or thoughts you may have. Share your story with me if you want!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:10 pm 
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Withdrawals kicking in pretty good right now...

* Nose dripping like crazy
* Sucking down Full Throttles
* Can't focus on homework
* Watching crazy amounts of porn
* Frequent trips to the b room
* Pacing around my house like a weirdo and looking through my blinds

It's only 5:07 pm. Only 19 hours and 38 minutes left until I take my first Sub. Can't wait to look back on these threads with a new perspective on life!

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Hi kanaguh03, How are you feeling this morning? I'm sure by now you are feeling much better than you did when you posted last night. I just wanted to respond to your post and welcome you to the forum. I wish you the best of luck with your treatment! If you need anything or have questions I'm sure you will find the answers you need here. Alot of times it helps me just to have somewhere to vent my frustrations. Let us know how your induction went!

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Qhorsegal,
Thank you kindly for the warm welcome! I am very excited to be part of this forum and find myself glued to the vast amounts of shared knowledge in here. I am feeling soooo much better!

32 hours deep into my self-induced opiate-abstinence and failing miserably at sleep, I finally made it to my Dr.'s office for my first dose of sub this morning at 7:45 am.
Shortly after entering and seating myself in the waiting room, Dr. came out and asked, "How are you feeling?"
I stared at him blankly thinking, "Are you fucking kidding me?! "Eh...", I said blankly.
**keep in mind its been 32 hours since my last morphine/norco cocktail!**
He took me back and asked me a bunch of questions, checked my blood pressure, etc. Then he reached for his drawer. As he began to open this particular drawer, a blinding, thick beam of light exploded out of it, increasing in brightness as he stretched it further. Nah, I'm just fuckin with you. He pulled out a sub and began to tell me wonderful things about it. One thing in particular that really stuck with me was how he told me I was going to remember what life was like. Next, he explains how to take the sub (which I already learned from the amazing people in this forum!) and finally hands me an 8mg/2mg, hexagonal tab. I put the tab in my mouth, crushed it up quickly, and used the little bit of saliva in my mouth to make a paste and "paint" the cheeks, tongue, and the frenulum (thin tissue under the tongue that connects it to the bottom of the mouth). I let this "pasty paint" set for 10 minutes and tried to swallow any saliva. At the end of the 10 minutes, I swished the accumulated mixture in my mouth for about 120 seconds like it was mouth wash. 10 minutes later the Dr. came out and told me to go for a walk for 20 minutes and then come back inside. As soon as I stepped out into the morning California sun, this amazing drug hit me. All I can say is WOW! I literally felt normal. It actually eliminates withdrawal symptoms and cravings and was even able to go straight to work. I am to take these tabs twice a day for 1 week and then come back in for potential dose reduction. I went the entire day without any cravings. The only reason I even took the second one at 7pm was because of direction from the Dr.

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Yay! I'm so happy to hear that you had a successful induction! Everything will just continue to get better from here. You may go through a little bit of an adjustment period while your body gets used to the suboxone and until your system kind of regulates on it. But it sounds like you did very well and you may not have any side effects at all. Great job! Welcome to your new life....drug free!


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Hello kanaguh and welcome. I'm glad to hear your induction went smoothly. Congrats on starting suboxone and choosing remission over more active addiction. Again, welcome to the forum. Keep up the good work! :)

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Try to remember the Suboxone and this forum is NOT treatment.. Group & counseling & 1 on 1 counseling isnt for everyone but everyone should at least try otherwise the Sub isnt gonna work and as soon as you come off you will probably eventually relapse. Sub is a tool but NOT treatment. Good Luck in your recovery and I hope you find something that works for you!

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sodone wrote:
Try to remember the Suboxone and this forum is NOT treatment.. Group & counseling & 1 on 1 counseling isnt for everyone but everyone should at least try otherwise the Sub isnt gonna work and as soon as you come off you will probably eventually relapse. Sub is a tool but NOT treatment. Good Luck in your recovery and I hope you find something that works for you!


Thanks for the heads up! I will definitely try to attend some N/A meetings. It's really hard sometimes because of my school and job but that's no excuse.


Okay, so I'm feeling pretty good off the Sub...maybe a little too good. Am I supposed to feel high? I caught myself nodding out throughout the day. My Dr. has me taking them twice a day which I'm taking at twelve hour marks. Is it possible that my body is just adjusting to this new medicine? I'll see my Dr. Thursday and ask him all these questions but until then I'd like to know what others think about this.

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If you're really sleepy and nodding out, that could be an indication that your dose is too high. Definitely speak to your doctor about it.

I also wanted to add that ideally suboxone is meant to be taken only once daily. It has a very long half life (on average 37 hours) and because of that, there is simply no need to dose more than once daily, UNLESS you are taking it for pain or are known to be a fast metabolizer.

I know your doctor has you taking it twice daily for now, but I wanted to mention that to you. Perhaps you can also discuss that with him/her.

Good luck with further stabilizing on sub.

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kanaguh - I felt pretty high the first couple days I was on sub. The 3rd day I still felt it, but by the 4th I just felt normal. Are you still feeling it when you take it? My dr had me take 16mg the 1st day, and told me I could take up to 24mg/day...to just see how I felt. But I really only took like 10mg the first day and that was still too much. So I went down to 6mg the 2nd day and haven't needed any more since then. My dr said that's great. How much are you taking?


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kanaguh - I felt pretty high the first couple days I was on sub. The 3rd day I still felt it, but by the 4th I just felt normal. Are you still feeling it when you take it? My dr had me take 16mg the 1st day, and told me I could take up to 24mg/day...to just see how I felt. But I really only took like 10mg the first day and that was still too much. So I went down to 6mg the 2nd day and haven't needed any more since then. My dr said that's great. How much are you taking?


He started me on 16 mg a day but felt like I was getting loaded off of it. I quickly began only taking half of an 8mg/2mg tab, once a day since Tuesday. I actually feel like this drug has stabilized me. I will continue to take 4mg a day until I run out of my current script and then ask the Dr. to lower my dose to 2mg on my third week. Hopefully at the end of my third week I can stop completely.

Blood tests came back and turns out everything is fine with my liver and kidneys. Unfortunately, my testosterone is through the basement. I've read up on what opiates do to our endocrine system and hormone level depletion as a result of long-term opiate use. I'm probably going to be starting some hormone replacement therapy soon but I will be reading up on that some more before I commit.

Quick thank you to every that has shared their knowledge and experiences with me! I pray to the Creator to give everyone here strength in overcoming anything that stands in your way. I love all of you! I know I'm a noob but feel free to message me for anything.

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