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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:28 pm 
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I have been taking 16 mgs of Sub for almost 2 weeks. I feel great don't get me wrong, but last night I had a couple of drinks, well maybe more than a couple. I have been feeling strange, cranky, tired and just not my usual self after a night of drinking. And I am NOT by any means a big drinker. I get drunk 2 maybe 3 times a year. I am interested in hearing any other stories people have with mixing alcohol and Sub. Thanks!!!!


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Not good to drink or do any other drugs if your trying to recover kind of defeats the purpose don't u think.


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I was on subs for over a year and did not drink the first three or four months. Soon enough I started drinking and it is not the fun drunk you used to get. I would get buzzed but I had t stop after a good four or five drinks because I felt my body telling terrible things. Nobody I knew had any idea i was on subs, minus my girlfriend, but did noticed I didn't drink like I used to and that I didn't look 'happy' halfway through the evening when I went out drinking. Even after being completely off of subs and all drugs for almost 11 months the effects of drinking just are not the same. It may be a mental thing, the best cure for a hangover for me was always a shot of dope. So I never drink enough to get sick anymore. My advice to anyone is to stay away from all drugs/booze for awhile if not completely. If you do drink make it a just a beer to crave your social woes and thats it. Also, no drinking while in detox. I couldn't keep anything down, but when the WDs were impossible I drank a few healthy swallows of red wine, held it down for 20 min, then threw it up as I did everything else. It did no good. Didn't calm my nerves any, only shattered my affinity for red wine. Good luck and remember it is possible to get off this stupid drug.


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Alcohol and suboxone is a terrible mix. I don’t know what it is about it, but the fun buzz you get from drinking is wiped away when on subs. It just leaves you with a weird feeling of confusion and a headache; the next day isn’t fun as well. If I ever drink on subs, it’s just one beer or glass of wine with dinner.

I know this might not be the same for everyone, but it is for me and a few other sub users I know.


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ive been on sub for 3 years and have only got drunk like 4 times i think. but yea sub and booze do not go well at all. when i first started to drink on sub i would get sick after 1 beer an felt like i drank 24 spins whole nine yards. so the other 3 times i wouldnt take sub at all on those days and just get drunk to cover up the wds. and those 3 times were just cause of playoff hockey games. ill never drink again after those 3 nights sure i felt fine that night but the next day i sure paid for the fun the night b4. my input is dont ever drink while on sub!


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I never had any problems drinking on suboxone. I could drink one or two drinks and I have gotten completely wasted when I was on it. I found that I could drink a LOT MORE on suboxone without getting "drunk". However, suboxone also caused me to have FAR LESS interest in alcohol and I pretty much just quit drinking without even thinking about it. Then I would have a drink every now and again without issue. We went out to celebrate a work success last night and I had 4 or 5 drinks and came home. No big deal.

I think anything in moderation is acceptable unless you have a tendency not to be able to do that. Then it is probably best to stay away from everything all together. If I wasn't on suboxone, I would probably have to steer clear from the booze entirely only because I have been known to binge years ago before opiates.

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Craziness, I have neverrr had any problems drinking on suboxone. When i was at higher doses of subs i would go out and drink mayyybe once a week and just have two or three beers because I didnt need anything more than that. Dont get me wrong some times I would get drunk and it was fine and actually minimal hangover the next day. I am finding that now that I have dropped to 4mg and down to 2mg now I am drinking a little bit more frequently (2-3x a week) and having a drink or two more. I actually have been kinda worried about this because I dont want it to be a problem and especially while I am trying to get off the subs.


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Drinking while on subs? Now that's just insane for me to even consider. When I drink the buzz isn't quite good enough so then I find myself drunk and knocking on the dopeman's door again....and the cycle of addiction begins all over again and I never know what year the hell-bound train stops to let me off for another attempt at recovery.....or perhaps my final destination..."the end".


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I think a person would have to be pretty careful and I would think that it would take at least a year of total sobriety to even consider having a drink. If you do decide to do it, I would suggest you try to be as honest with yourself as possible. I haven't put having the occasional beer totally off of my table, but I know that right now it is in my best interest to not drink.


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In my opinion, this subject is for the most part a personal matter. While I don't think ANYBODY (again, just my opinion) should be out getting wasted, I think having a drink or 2 every now in then isn't a big deal for some. For example, I love the occasional glass of wine, or more than anything a Guinness. I have never had a problem with drinking, and actually my freshman year of college I would go out drinking a lot, and it one day hit me that I didn't enjoy drinking at all, and stopped until I eventually found opiates.

Well, I do enjoy the taste of Guinness, and I will still have one every now and then when I go to a restaurant that has it on tap, but I just think of it as a drink, not the alcohol, as it doesn't give me any buzz (that I can notice, but i've always been kind of resistant to alcohols effects, for being a small guy, I used to have to drink 4.5-5 drinks to start really buzzing. But again, I don't care for the effects of alcohol, and except for my 21st birthday and the last new years eve i've had more than a drink or 2, twice since I turned 21.

I do believe that a person with a previous weakness for alcohol SHOULD use caution and really think about it, because i've heard of people on subs becoming heavy drinkers. EDIT: BTW, I would strongly suggest against hard liquor more than anything, as this can really lead to a slippery slope!


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I have found that sub has completely made me loose interest in drinking. A couple months ago my brother was down (he's in the army) and we went to the casino and I had to force down my 1st 2 drinks. I used to have a couple glasses of wine or beer a few times a week but since starting sub 5 months ago I have had maybe 4 or 5 drinks total. It actually makes me nauseous even thinking about it.


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i have 4 beers get the high faster then stop". i just feel complete! had enough and it freaks all my friends and family out.
they don't understand. and that's o.k.


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I haven't drank on Suboxone, but will probably have a beer or two at some point just to see how it reacts (I am not tied up with 12 step dogma and the concept of "sobriety time"). That being said, its been over a year for me and I still don't feel as if I am ready to have a beer or anything else yet. Two weeks is way to early to try drinking IMO. If I were you I would not drink for quite awhile until you have developed some very steady and safe habits.


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 Post subject: dont drink with sub
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I've been on and off sub for about 4 years now and I can say that they do not mix, just like methadone and alcohol dont mix and can be dangerous. Its best to just take sub and sub only unless you ask your doctor first.

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Another one here..

I absolutely refused to drink the last few years I was on suboxone. Alcohol was never a big thing for me so I was shocked when I'd try to have a beer/ cocktail here and there with either my husband or coworkers and I'd feel pretty crappy. Some of symptoms included flushing, stuffy nose, irritability, tiredness and sleeplessness. Also, I never had a buzzed feeling when drinking. It's like the sub blocked it. It got to a point where it was just known by those around me that I didn't drink. I tried to go out to holiday parties or special gatherings and just be sober but it wasn't as fun and slowly I began to stay home altogether. Thus the sub isolation began.

I can drink (in moderation) now that I've been off subs. It's nice to be able to join my co-workers for happy hour once in a while.. or have a glass of wine with my best friend. I missed that over the years. Again, I am not a big drinker and am talking a handful of time each year at most. It's just nice to have that option back and I've been more social lately whether have a drink or not.


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I drink on suboxone occasionally. Had a couple of Jamesons lastnight even. Never had a problem with alcohol. Never enjoyed it enough. After being an IV drug addict, using alcohol as a drug is like watching a snail race... Who can be fucked waiting that long to get wasted?

These days I mainly drink for the taste. I LOVE a good beer. At the moment I'm loving this stuff: http://stoneandwood.com.au/beers/pacific-ale/

They're an awesome lil brewery. Whenever we go driving the country, I always stop at the lil breweries and sample each beer. No amount of Suboxone will get between me and a good beer.


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TeeJay wrote:
I drink on suboxone occasionally. Had a couple of Jamesons lastnight even. Never had a problem with alcohol. Never enjoyed it enough. After being an IV drug addict, using alcohol as a drug is like watching a snail race... Who can be fucked waiting that long to get wasted?

These days I mainly drink for the taste. I LOVE a good beer. At the moment I'm loving this stuff: http://stoneandwood.com.au/beers/pacific-ale/

They're an awesome lil brewery. Whenever we go driving the country, I always stop at the lil breweries and sample each beer. No amount of Suboxone will get between me and a good beer.


Can I ask how long you've been on suboxone for? I'm wondering because for me the reaction to alcohol wasn't immediate. I'd say near the end of my first year is when I started to notice reactions.. I don't believe that everyone has this reaction though, either. My husband never had any issues but he was on a ridiculously low amount for most of the time.


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As most of you know, I've been on subonxone since June 2nd, so 4 months roughly... I was an alcoholic back in the day, but quit drinking for good in 2006. I have had the occasionall drink like on New Year's or to celebrate something since then, but never more than one. About a month ago, my husband and I were kidless, she was staying the night with my mom and we went and got 2 22oz budlites and a 6 pack of Sam Adams Fall Harvest. Yum, that beer has a wonderful taste ;) We drank the 22oz's each and 2 of the Fall beers, so we each had an equivalent of 4 beers. Not bad. He didn't get much of a buzz, but I did, but that's probably because I'm a "light weight" now when it comes to alcohol. We were at home though and I enjoyed my buzz here, and went to bed. I didn't feel bad the next morning or day at all so I really don't think it had any ill affect on me.

Do I plan on making that a habit? No. I probably won't have another drink until New Year's, if I even do then. I don't think drinking on any medication regularly is a great idea anyway, but drinking a few beers like we did that night was no problem for me, doing it here at home. I wouldn't tell my doc about that though, he would just give me the speech about replacing alcohol as my drug of choice, but I think that depends on the person... I know for me, it won't be a pattern. It was just a good time, spent at home, having a few beers with my hubby ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Alcohol
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I searched this question for the same info: I drank too much a while back and felt like CRAP about an hour afterwards. This crap feeling continued into the next day. It sucked. Lesson learned; for me, drinking and sub just don't mix. One or two drinks is fine, but for me, having more than that is just not worth subsequent 24 hours of suffering. Drinking doesn't cure the anxiety either, it just makes it worse later on. Not worth it.

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I threw my friend a bachelorette party last August. I tried to get a buzz on. I poured my own vodka drinks, so I know I had equal to 3 or 4 shots of vodka, and blaaaahh. Nothing. I'm the type of person who can buzzed on half a glass of wine, so that is just the way sub affects my system. I've never been a drinker, so it doesn't bother me, but it was weird.

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